I have been playing with a new Triquint ULNA device (TQP3M9036). It
Shows a lot of promise. It is like a MAR or MSA device in that it is
50ohm in and out. and has a claimed NF about .4db nf ( their numbers).
I have built several pramps to test them and have gotten even better
than they claim and they cover 50-1296 with ease and NF is .4ish or
below. The S11 and S22 are both great and the OIP3 is +35db also
...very nice device. It has great promise as a good terrestrial LNA.
Preamps are foolproof to build and would cost under $50 if all the best
quality parts are used.
Just for information only ...
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Sri I made, at least a mistake, I send it again.
Very interesting answers. I come from Sats world, where the Doppler
is a serious issue and it is so quick that it is impossible to work
I will speak thinking in one carrier. Sats need to receive in only
one fix frequency (it is an active RX with a wideband), if the Sat
receives a carrier in this frequency then it will be repeated. The
signal TX from the Sat will be in one fix frequency. So people who
work Sats must correct its TX frequency (according with actual
Doppler) to reach the sat in its fix frequency, in the same way
because of the Sats will repeat this signal in a fix frequency, people
must correct its RX frequency (according with actual Doppler).
This way of dealing with Doppler is very interesting because NOBODY
KNOWS the Doppler of the other stations and nobody needs to know it,
we only need to know our own Doppler.
If we would use this agreement to EME communications we will always
speak about the frequency we hit the Moon, in other words the
frequency which the Moon hear us and repeat our signal.
The actual EME software shows us the Doppler as the sum of the Doppler
effects to reach the Moon and to receive the bounce signal, so Moon
will receive us at ½ Doppler announced, the other ½ effect will appear
after de bounce.
I will try to set a couple of examples.
1.- We will agree to hit the Moon in 1296.070. This is the frequency I
will announce in the log. In our software the dates will be:
The sign that the software shows will aplly to RX frequency and the
opposite to the TX frequency, and always ½ magnitude on each one.
Both of us must deal with Doppler, each one must do their task to hit
the moon in the agreed frequency and to receive the bounce according
our Doppler. Then we must set on our transceivers:
TX: 1296.070 -1.5KHz = 1296.0685MHz
RX: 1296.070 +1.5KHz= 1296.0715MHz
TX: 1296.070 +1.0KHz = 1299.071MHz
RX: 1296.070 -1.0KHz= 1296.069MHz
Each station who sees the post will act only according its own
Doppler. Don´t mind where is the DX station.
2.- In this case I see a signal in my receiver in 1296.070. What
kind of pair of frequencies I must set (I know nothing about the DX
station I have still decode nothing), I only know me own Doppler, and
it is +2KHz. I must hit the moon in the same frequency that my
TX: 1296.070 -1.0KHz = 1296.069MHz
RX: 1296.070 = 1296.070MHz
WE WILL NOT NEED TO KNOW NO MORE THAN OUR DATES.
I haven´t spoken about what frequencies will be the echoes (both
echoes), to make the understanding easy.
As a drawback we should change our habits, we should always use the
RIT as follow:
TX: The frequency we choose plus the opposite sign of Doppler and ½
RIT: the sign of our Doppler and ½ Doppler magnitude.
Although at first glance it seems not to be interesting in 144MHz but
we will always hit the target in whatever band, even in 144MHz.
Somebody can tell that they need a computer, to do JT65 of course, if
you do CW surely have a smart phone with the proper software to know
your own Doppler or you can print it before.
If I made some mistakes let me know.
It is my 2 cents.
As my 23cm project is underway, I no longer need the 2m EME stuff I used when I was QRV back in 2012. I don't have any plans to return to 2m EME anytime soon as I don't have the room at my house for long yagis.
With that, I have decided to sell my 2m?EME components to make some room.
Here is what I have for sale:
W6PO design 8877 2m RF deck w/8877 tube, homebrew (not by me), $1000 OBO - Pics available upon request. This works nicely, I used it in 2012 for all of my JT65 & CW EME QSO's. Rack & Power supply is NOT for sale (power supply & rack?is?not mine to sell, owner not interested in selling)
DEMI L144LNACK-2N GaAs pHEMT pre amp., 17dBG, <0.5DBNF, RX only!, $40 - I built this as a kit
YU7EF design 9 el yagis (built by me) - quantity of 4, these break down each into 3 sections, with LMR-400 phasing cables (n connectors). All are lightweight contruction. $250 OBO for all four - pickup only
M2 4 port power divider for 2m (n connectors)?- $100
I will sell the yagis and M2 4 port divider together for $300.
The yagis are the only thing I won't ship. I would prefer local pickup on the amp to ensure it's safety but I'll ship (I drove to Virginia to pick it up!)
Its been awhile since I have been QRV with my 2m-eme station.
Four independent problems in my transmission line during the winter
kept me off the Moon and then my HVPS acted up. Well it turned out
to be a simple problem but it didn't appear that way. My 4kV dropped
to 2.8kV without a load. I envisioned all kinds of problems but in
the end it was simply a blown HV fuse. It did not blow open but
instead went to 16meg-ohm which was enough to drop the HV with very
low current being drawn by the HV panel meter.
Having no replacement fuse, I decided to remove the HB fuse holder
from the HVPS since changing the fuse required removing the 8877 deck
from the rack to gain access thru the HVPS top plate which is
directly under the amplifier. I will order some more HV fuses from
Nebraska sales ($25/ea.) and make an inline HV fuse box which will be
much quicker access to replace a fuse. Actually, I have only blown
two of these fuses in 8-years of running.
How I blew this one is that the 6-dB attenuator that I was using to
lower drive to my transverter to keep drive below 50w to the 8877
failed in short resulting in over 100w drive to the 8877. Anode
current spiked taking out the HV fuse as it is designed to
do. Probably hit over 2kW output!
A couple other improvements will make recovery from HV events
quicker: I brought the 240vac mains fuses to the front panel of the
HVPS and increased them to 20A. And I added a vernier to the 8877
drive input cap. Looks like I got a finer tune on the input as it is
taking less drive to reach 1200w.
I will be QRV Sunday from about 1400utc to 1700utc (Moonset):
144.116, 1st for CQ and on N0UK logger. Mon> I will be trying to
work 6W/PE1L in Senegal very early in my morning. We only have about
30-min common Moon on Monday but this increases on subsequent days.
73, Ed - KL7UW
"Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
i heve :
3 meter Dish Reflector Kit.
307 CM DIAMETER F/D RATIO 0.4
The Kit includes:
16 Ribs pre-assembled
8 Angular reinforcement structure
1 Central Drum
1 Attack must (dia. 45 mm approx. – innocents-)
5 Tube Ø 16 mm shaped for the circumference.
All the necessary mounting hardware (all INOX)Photo-mounting instructions
All parts are numbered and the entire structure is easily assembled.
For mounting serve three keys: 10, 13 and 8.
The whole structure is made of anodized aluminium avio anti-corodal.
All hardware is STAINLESS steel.
The weight should be around 20/30 Kg (a person can hold it alone)
Once assembled it remains only to apply a mesh (not included in Kit) which
vest more befitting to the frequency on which will be working the parable,
keeping in mind that we can say that the length of the side of the mesh
shall be at least one-tenth of the wavelength of the lowest frequency
(example. 1296 MHz wavelength at least 23 cm knit 2,3 cm). A good
compromise may be from 1.2 cm that is what I have installed on my parable,
who works on 432 MHz 1296 and 2320 with excellent results.
The price is 800.00 euro (excluding shipping costs) is not negotiable,
taking into account the type of materials used and the workmanship, and
also taking into account that a German firm producing a specimen like this
and wants to € 1400.00!!!!
Just for news I built many kits from this parable and I personally tried
with great satisfaction via Tropo 432-1296-2320 MHz and 1296 Mhz EME,
representing that every subsequent construction are applied to minor
On request I can provide support for elevation, support for feed (depending
on what you decide to use) and feed.
On request sending other photos via email.
Anyway almost identical to this: http://digilander.libero.it/iz0cls/
Or watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxqs7mtuT-A
If you or someone of your friend is interested
Contact to: fabrizio.iz0cls(a)gmail.com or iz0cls(a)libero.it
Al Katz, K2UYH, will be working on the 432 and above EME Newsletter this weekend. Send your news, especially about recent contest activity, and any technical items, to him at alkatz(a)tcnj.edu
Previous NL can be found at http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/em70cm.html
73, Peter G3LTF
If at all possible try and make an accurate measurement of sun noise during the eclipse period on what ever band you can. Ideally we are looking for the ratio between normal level (measured on the same day) and the minimum sun noise occurring at the time of maximum shadowing. You can get the timing for your exact location from this link. http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2015Mar20Tgoogle.html
We believe that we can possibly accumulate some interesting measurements on a non-quiet sun which might indicate how much noise comes from the corona compared to the disc. This influences what value is used for the solar diameter when making beamwidth measurements for example.
GL 73 Peter G3LTF
I am writing a grant proposal to establish/build a moonbounce station at a
University, for educational use. I have been around a few, and studied
them, helped assemble them, but never had to build/order a complete set
of parts/component/systems for a complete station. I never, until now,
had the opportunity to find a grant provider that could accept, judge, and
hopefully fulfill a grant proposal to build an EME station. If successful,
I am happy to share what I have learned, with others who may wish to build
EME stations at schools, clubs or other organizations.
I wonder if any of you have made a spreadsheet, perhaps for insurance
purposes, etc, with a full listing of of all components to your station,
with vendor contact info, pricing, etc. I am thinking of a QRO station
23cm, CW, SSB, JT-65, to an existing large parabolic dish, but any station
combination, of any band and mode, would be useful. to develop my listing
on this grant proposal. Block diagram drawings of your station would also
be helpful. Include if you can, a desirable minumum, medium, or gold
standard selection of EME station test equipment for commissioning, testing
and ongoing long term maintenance/repair.
In fact, such a spreadsheet covering a variety of station examples would
probably be useful to any of us newbies. Maybe a published collection of
Moon-Net subscribers' EME station listings in a spreadsheet format would
be helpful to anyone putting a new station together, (or Grant proposals
together) who would otherwise be starting the daunting task, with a clean
spreadsheet file.. If you have one that you are willing/able send to me,
send to my e-mail, off line to my email address below.
If you think a publicly accessible listing of a variety of complete,
proven, set of EME station components would be useful, choose a web
location, let everyone know and let any who wish, post them. If one
thinks security of such a listed collection of high value equipment a
listing, or location of high value equipment might be an issue, I, or
whoever collates, develops, or publishes such lists can make the owners'
names and locations completely anonymous.
Thanks, Best, 73